Bought me a new rigg this thurstday,
When i got home and started to ripp the boxes apart i was stunned to see no windows install cd in the package (was part of reason why i bought new comp, needed new windows system disk for old comp) works out i need to copy the whole hard disk of the new comp to cd's(5!) to make my own system recovery cd's for that comp (BUT I CAN ONLY DO IT ONCE!!!!!)
now here's the question : I've got some old(few year old) no brand cd/r's lying around should i use them? or buy some A- brand cd/r's? (not installed mercs yet btw kinda curious how the
game looks like with high specs and all the stuff on!!
edit havent Installed anything yet because i first want to have a stable system on my recovery cd's

I hear ya abbo. The first thing I do when I get a new system is pull all device drivers for it as per the current config. Next, I wipe the system out and all the extra crap loaded on it and reinstall the OS. The repair/reinstall CD's they give out usually have all the junk on them.

It's really annoying because I have no intent on violating the licensing, I just want to build the system without all the extra stuff they cram on. See if you can find a friend who has a CD of your new OS to copy for a fresh install if that is what you mean. That or the IT folks at your company may be able to lend you a copy. Just make sure your legal. If not, just run linux on the old system with all the office productivity stuff loaded.

Gonna get me some new high quallity cd/r's tomorow no need to hurry things
So its legal to use someone else his system-install disk?
uhm linux ? I harvest trees for a living........ no high i.q. here LOL

if u have a hub just setup a network connection grab norton ghost, and just clone ur harddrive, thats what i did

Yep. As they like to say, they do not sell medium, just a license to use. If you pay for it, you can use it. There are copy count issues but since I don't work for M$, you do as you feel appropriate. I'm not so sure about copying or ghosting an image. So many device drivers will be off that it seems unlikely to me that it will boot. Good luck to ya though. Real bummer you can't get a real CD.



Believe it or not but RedHat 8.0 and Suse 9.0 are amazingly easy. Actually, RH now does so many little config things for you and then try's to make sure you don't mess things up that it prevents you from making some changes unless you really know how to rip it open. When I work with RH, I'm now frustrated by the auto features in the same way that Windoze annoys me.

Since you know Windoze, no reason to switch now. I like it cause I can run it on different machines and licensing isn't an issue. If you ever get bored, you may be surprised how easy it is.

LOL looks like this thing is jinxed after i unpacked the monitor (wich was damaged ) i took it back to the store they said it was a special case i had to call the importer myself to get a new one or have it repaired in their opnion(going back was to tired to raise hell at the time)
the install program for my cable-conection does not work on xp????
manual instalation for the conection had no luck with that one
the router i was suposed to buy was out of stock (left work early missed my friday beer and snack to get it)
SO How was your weekend?

Hey Abbo

Sorry to hear about the probs mate
Firstly what kind of supplier did you get it from. Get in there and RAC his butt!
The words to note are *They* (the supplier) and *supply*: They supply faulty goods the law says they replace!
Unless the item is not carried as normal stock?
Hope things get better for you and your new sys mate

Thx for help all ,system works for most part
only have to see what happens with monitor

Watch for the 2 worst secuirty holes. MSN Messenger & Net Messenger built into every XP Home edition installed. Shut them Off, Uninstall or Whatever it takes to disable them. XP is pretty good, BUT, as good as it is in some areas it leaves open holes for their own interests which can be exploited.

Chalk this one up to libertarian paranoia.

Titus

Hope that all that monitor stuff is working out for ya Abbo. Computer back yet?

Yeah, lots of bad things turned on, on XP, but then again, same deal on W2K/NT/Me/98/95.

I can lead you through a very ardous process of locking a box down or you can go get a personal firewall. Or you can be like me and do both and have a network firewall too with network based IDS thrown in. Having too much fun with new cable modem connection.

Just get software to protect the system. There are too many other things that need fixed for most people to care or bother with.

http://www.teambanzai.net/jimmy/TPF.zip

Tiny Personal Firewall

THX for the support
will it work with a router?
im gonna insert another HD in my old comp the other had a smart failure whatever that is (had messages for a month while booting)
but the new system is working fine,my gunnery got allot better ,last days with the old comp my targets sometimes warped a bit every few secs (could overcome it with timing most times) at lowest mercs config possible
when the old comp is fine im gonna buy a router and link the 2

I'm going to assume a lot so I don't drone on forever.

First, Jimmy's firewall Tiny Personal Firewall (TPF) works. It's a shame that it is no longer maintained. I like ZoneLabs ZoneAlarm. TPF works well though and is free.

Router: You are using DSL or Cable Modem

- DLink works well and is inexpensive. NetGear makes better stuff but runs higher $, firewall is a real stateful inspection firewall. Won't go into details but nearly all other vendor Router/Firewalls I've had in a lab have serious faults. I haven't seen much about anything else that impresses me (not even Cisco). If you don't know why you would care, don't worry about it and go with what is easy to use and inexpensive/free.

- Are you considering wireless? A box that is a router, wireless AP and switch is a real nifty combo. I'm using the Netgear MR814. My only complaint is that it's not 802.11a, but that was my desision. The b stuff is much cheaper right now. Don't even consider 802.11g as the standard is not complete and you will have problems if you ever buy wireless down the road that meets the standards.

- You can buy wireless gear that does both 802.11a/b, it is more expensive but gives you the ability to change over the rest of your wireless stuff when your wallet wants to.

- You don't need a router to link two computers. A hub or switch (both are cheap) works for a small home network or if this is just a direct connection, a cross over cable between network ports works well. You can get ethernet cross over cables at any large computer store for a few dollars. Or I can give ya a URL for the pin-out on how to make them.

- Did you ever get the CD's to redo your system?

I installed T.P.F. WOW firstcrash problems while booting thx Jimmy!!!!
(n.p. jimmy thx for trying )
Just had to restart in previous config ,its fixed

I think you are mistaken about this. I just bought Win XP and the EULA allows me to install the OS on my primary computer and on my laptop (portable) computer. It does not allow me to install it on my computer and then give it to my buddy to install on his.

You pay fro the licence NOT the media.

it ok to use someoen else's disk. I have a copy of 2k from a friend, but i use the origional licence key because i went to a LAN party and some git stole my bag that had my system disks and a few agmes in it (also Joystick, mouse, keyboard and speakers) while it was sat on the seat of my car and i was unloading stuff.

I paid for the licence, if they think i'm gonna spend another £250 or so on another disk they are sorely mistaken. The Insurance company rufused to pay out because my car door was unlocked.

But he has a license for a copy of windows so it doesnt matter where the copy actually comes from (I think)

Correct. You pay for a license, not media with which to install the software.

XP has a neat feature in it. If you are not registered, you are not allowed to update to SP-1. This has sort of been rescinded by M$ because this is a mess for big corp users. Just turn Updating on and it will update beyond SP-1 without registration. My systems are legal, but I'll be damned if I open the box up to them every time I want a download. Once you have SP-1, you can go back to more traditional methods of patching without connecting to any M$ site.

Their update sites upload information from your registry about every app loaded, any account information and there is additional info uploaded but what and the purpose has not been identified. Down with da man!

XP works similar to MS office, it looks at what your sys config is and as far as I am aware assigns a "code" of some kind and places that against the product reg, the copy of XP having its own code too kind of like a unique ref. If the two dont tally with the registration info then you have problems. If you change your HHD you should be ok but change a graphics card or MB and you have a problem on your hands, Calls to MS asking for a resolution as you system don't work

Just to put the licensing thing into prospective for none IT people.
One of our clients decided to upgrade from Win98 to Win 2000 as standard and also eplace their existing PC's. (160)
The license thing is a nightmare for IT companies, apart from the fact that the cost can be prohibertive, you then have to decide which type of licence, OEM, Corporate, stand alone etc.

If you then add SQL, Exchange and 2000 server you come into the relms of CAL's (Client Access License) this is where good old MS begin the sit back and count the money bit. For the 160 PC's, SQL, Exchange and 2000 servers and all the CAL's the cost prior to cutting corners was £24'000.
Now pardon me for being blunt but that's a bloody rip of and whilst I appriciate the developers put alot of work into the products its a major bummer for small to med size bussines.

I have not used Linux myself but look forward to that day. its time MS got its sh** together and stopped ripping the punter off.

Got new monitor

a person used to be able to buy just a licence, and a book relatively cheap at places like kcusa.com , so I know it is legal. I personally like the Linksys (BEFSR41) as far as routers are concerned, only because of the support they offer.

Cool, things working better, now Abbo?

Same here. It works and I can even tell from the interface what it's doing. Weird, huh?

Well this week mercs did not run as smooth as before allot of mini warps and less damage given then it should
bin thinking about adding memory ,but dont know what type to get its 512dd right now
Mother board compaq presario 06
Da 350 ABH
6560,nl 910
maybe its something else.....